Curse

pingu666 · Mar 09, 2009, 02:58 AM // 02:58

id just say keep trying, and be prepaired to have 2-5 people and hero fillers

displaying a protector/guardian title might help too...

try to have good heros too, so u can fill in the blanks easily

Perkunas · Mar 09, 2009, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by kamolahy

I want to PLAY the game... not with heroes, with people.

What happened?

Ugh, if this is the way it is then this game has failed massively. Please someone tell me I'm wrong and just misinformed.

As you progress through Nightfall, certain quests and missions requires certain heroes. I believe the same is true for parts EotN. This requirement started the move to play purely H/H. Some will tell you that they henched all the way from beginning, but most people in the beginning, played random PuGs or with guild members. Now days, many people are "chasing titles," or farming, or running. They can't be bothered to stop what they are doing to help you do your thing. Also, if the same number of people are playing today as there was 3 years ago, they now have 3 campaigns, 1 expansion, and the bonus pack to choose from. So finding someone in a given area, working on the same thing you are, will not be as easy as in the past.

Now days, a good active guild, with people willing to help a new member catch up, is your best bet to not play alone. Hope you have better luck finding that guild than I did.

Right now, I don't spend much time using PuGs. The reason being, too much lag on my part. I don't want to join a group then lag out during the mission or quest, as I do quite frequently now.

Wish you luck, and hang in there.

cebalrai · Mar 09, 2009, 08:53 PM // 20:53

GW is essentially a single-player game now. Which is sad, because compared to other 1-player RPGs available for the PC, it fails massively.

Zodiac Meteor · Mar 09, 2009, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Put it this way, Friends > Guildies > Alliance > PuGs.

PuGs suck or slow, that why no one does it.

People are spread out over 4 campaigns.

Heroes takes the place of PuGs

If you want to do dungeons etc. pm me, Zodiac Ele.

IlikeGW · Mar 09, 2009, 10:58 PM // 22:58

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

lol, get a guild.

Guilds in this game are for PVP. He's about as likely to find a PVE guild that wants to play the PVE areas with him as he is get an everlasting tonic off 1 zaishen key.

Clone · Mar 10, 2009, 12:26 AM // 00:26

As much as it will pain some of the people who cried insesantly about PvE skills, when Anet nerfed Ursan, they also killed the pug.

DragonRogue · Mar 10, 2009, 10:54 AM // 10:54

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

Guilds in this game are for PVP. He's about as likely to find a PVE guild that wants to play the PVE areas with him as he is get an everlasting tonic off 1 zaishen key.

This isnt true in the least. I am in a large PVE guild and alliance that does not care about owning a town or PVP.

Shadowhaze · Mar 10, 2009, 01:26 PM // 13:26

It is a sad thing. I'd rather pug than h/h because I like playing with people also, but end up just h/h most of the time anyway since no one is around. Sad indeed...
(Almost makes me wish some things were changed so it would be required to play with people. XD )

Laraja · Mar 10, 2009, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I'm with the OP on this. EotN is frustrating due to lack of groups. Everyone is either farming or wanting a run. This is my first time through EotN (I've only completed Prophs) and I like to do things for myself, and a good group just makes the experience better, IMO. Oh, and getting a group together to do a dungeon is almost impossible, but when it's happened, it's been a fantastic experience.

I've found that I'm pretty much SoL on groups until the weekends, and then I can find them. I did Jalis' Camp and DD with a great group. And in my experience, when you're doing something with a great group, that's when GW is a blast. Jalis' Camp was about the most fun I've had in GW in a while. Everyone was really in sync.

I am in a guild, and I think it's a good guild, but getting people together for dungeon runs is frustrating. I do dungeons with heros and henchmen but it's almost not worth it because I spend so much time flagging and managing my team. Out in the open, heros and henchmen do fine, it just seems to be in dungeons that they aren't as effective.

the_jos · Mar 10, 2009, 04:19 PM // 16:19

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Originally Posted by Falynn Firestorm

I've found that I'm pretty much SoL on groups until the weekends, and then I can find them. I did Jalis' Camp and DD with a great group. And in my experience, when you're doing something with a great group, that's when GW is a blast. Jalis' Camp was about the most fun I've had in GW in a while. Everyone was really in sync.

I am in a guild, and I think it's a good guild, but getting people together for dungeon runs is frustrating. I do dungeons with heros and henchmen but it's almost not worth it because I spend so much time flagging and managing my team. Out in the open, heros and henchmen do fine, it just seems to be in dungeons that they aren't as effective.

If you like your guild and don't want to leave them try to make more friends with the few players you team up with.
Chat with them from time to time, join them when they do something, ask them to join you on stuff.
Maybe you can get them in your guild or maybe their guild is better/more active and you can join theirs.

Besides that, organise things.
Don't ask in guild if someone likes to join you now because they are probably busy. Ask them if they'd like to team up tomorrow evening at 8PM for Frostmaw. Or even Friday evening or in the weekend.
Put it in announcement or ask an officer to put it in announcement. Remind people of it a couple of times, both during the week and earlier on the evening. If you have some people who are interested, you can also ask some friends.
It's much easier to get a team this way than to keep spamming guild chat when you want to do something.

JASON626 · Mar 10, 2009, 05:08 PM // 17:08

I thought pugs died way b4 eotn atleast for me..

Goto guru guild recruitment forum look for something that sounds like your interests.

elk · Mar 10, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by Nessar

I dont think I've ever seen anyone pugging dungeons post ursan.

I thought this the other day when; similar to the OP, someone was spamming for a group to do a dungeon. They commented on how no one does them any more and groups don't form (after talking to them a bit, they were actually trying to form the group vs. join one).

I really didn't want to start another Ursan thread or bump an old one and didn't relish the idea of re-hashing old discussions on Ursan. Having said that; now that we're so many "months" after the nerf, there are no longer any PUG's (or very minimal). I know this was discussed at the time how folks were limited to one style of play but it was also argued that this situation (no groups) would end up resulting. I recoginize that skill changes result in another "flavor" such as cryway but the same elitest requirements still apply (i.e. rank/ build/ experience etc). Granted it was mindless but at least folks would party together and everyone was on relatively level ground and could join a group (again less rank discrimination).

To direct a response at the OP - many have said it already. PUG's are tough to find under the best of circumstances anywhere (too spread out, failure rates or bad experiences,speed and organization, lazy etc.) and your best bet is to try and find a guild and hopefully one with a decent sized alliance that will further your chances of getting groups.

g/l!

elk

Improvavel · Mar 10, 2009, 05:44 PM // 17:44

LFG to go watch a movie!

LFG to go have dinner!

LFG to play football!

Will this work in real life? Why should it work in a game?

Painbringer · Mar 10, 2009, 05:58 PM // 17:58

You can play but it takes awhile to get a group. Now if A-net gave people a incentive to play together like double drops while in a Human party of 6 or more. End of problem

PUG Rule

On a side note its sure fun doing the waking waters mission with 3 warriors 2 monks 2 assasins and Olais set as minion master. With me asking numerous times how are we going to hit a flying target ? no answer How are we going to hit a flying target ? But we gave it a shot anyway. Failed disbanded and looked for another group. It was funnnnnnnnn for once.

kostolomac · Mar 10, 2009, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Your chances of successful pugging increase if you are polite, don't use 1337 [email protected] and lead the group. Otherwise prepare for a nightmare.

Stormz · Mar 30, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Improvavel

LFG to go watch a movie!

LFG to go have dinner!

LFG to play football!

Will this work in real life? Why should it work in a game?

This is an online game not a singleplayer game, a game not real life.Pugs was the original concept of Guildwars Prophecies.This is part of an RPG game to form groups of different proffesions.This game had one of the best formats in this.PVE is dead since they introduced heroes, dead and empty.

DreamWind · Mar 30, 2009, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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Originally Posted by cebalrai

GW is essentially a single-player game now. Which is sad, because compared to other 1-player RPGs available for the PC, it fails massively.

Exactly correct.

Bowman Artemis · Mar 30, 2009, 12:15 PM // 12:15

I have a proposal for everyone in this thread saying they want to play with other players. I also have a proposal for everyone in the other thread who wants to play their own build and not what PvX Wiki says is the "best" build.

I feel the same way. I play what I want to play and I enjoy playing with other people on Teamspeak/Vent. I want to play dungeons, hard mode and missions, not run them.

I've just started a new guild with a few RL friends. We're called the "Australian Multi-Game Clan" since it's kinda the GW-division of the actual clan. Contrary to what the name suggests, to join, you don't need to be Australian and you don't need to play multiple games. It's strange, I know.

Anyway, I'd like to ask anyone that wants to play (not "run") their own way, with real people, to join the guild I'm helping to run. It's primarily focused on fun, though there will be a number of organised dungeons and such, just to make finding a full group easier.

That's pretty much it, so send me a whisper. IGN is to the left.

byteme! · Mar 30, 2009, 10:31 PM // 22:31

After _____ was nerfed did anyone honestly not see this coming? I mean COME ON!

germanturkey · Mar 30, 2009, 11:12 PM // 23:12

yeah, i agree that if you don't act like an idiot you'll find a more successful pug. no promises that you'll actually succeed, but your experience will be better.

and yeah, the olden days were good before heroes. pugging Thunderhead was an absolute blast.